Author Topic: Some guitar questions...  (Read 6740 times)

Offline Sverre

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I'm not a guitarist so I can't really offer you any advice, but I just have to say that the mid-50s Goldtop with P-90 pickups Daniel Lanois played when I saw him live last year is by far the best sounding Les Paul I've ever had the pleasure to hear (might have something to do with the player :P). Personally, I liked his Firebird even better though...

Offline Darkburst

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surely the older guitars would be heavier, the wood they used in 59 for example was compressed heavily making those guitars stupidly heavy.

Uh most of the vintage Les Pauls are lighter then those made today. I don't known what you mean by the wood being 'compressed heavily'. The average weight of just the ones made from 58-60 is just shy of 9lbs. It wasn't until Gibson switched to the 'pancake' bodies in the 70's that Les Pauls became boat anchors.

The reissues get better and lighter wood. Period. The amount of maple and mahogany is nearly the same between USA Standards and Reissues. Even though USA Standards and Classics are all drilled full of weight relief holes they still weigh more on average than reissues. I've owned three USAs and four 59 reissues... the reissues all sound, feel and look much nicer.

Offline Slash1337

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I have an Epiphone Elitist Les Paul Custom (alpine white)
And it is IMO 10x better than the normal Gibson lines. Like Gibson standard etc.
Its better and cheaper just without the Gibson name.
Gibson Custom Shop is obviously 100 times better than teh Elitist line. But just cuz epiphone is the lesser company they can still equal the quality of the Gibsons.

I got my elitist for $800 brand new too. The local music store was having a blow out cleanance thing for all teh new NAMM products they were going to get.

Just my 2 cents. But its all opinion.

Offline slashpuppie

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I`ve been looking at 58`s and 59`s Reissues, those are the ones I actually want. But I think they are to expensive right now.
I think I`ll go for a Standard instead even though I know Reissues are "better". Flametops are really beautiful but I havent decided yet which color it`ll be.

Why is Studios so much cheaper than the other les pauls? I dont think their colors are as beautiful as the other LP though.
Epiphones are really nice too but I`ve decided to go for a Gibson.

Offline Slash1337

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Studio's are just a cheaper version "not as good" as a standard. But some people like the studios.

Just my thought on the Les Paul lines: Gibson Custom shop>Epiphone Elitist>Gibson>Epiphone

Offline Darkburst

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Get a used 58 reissue. They go for less than a new USA Standard. I also recommend looking at the forum recommended dealers at: http://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/

The dealers there sell new and used reissues for hundreds less that Musicians Friend and other massive online stores. Not only that, but you can actually choose the exact guitar you want unlike MF. Most of these guys sell a new 58 reissue for less than what MF sells a new USA STandard for. Check it out!

I`ve been looking at 58`s and 59`s Reissues, those are the ones I actually want. But I think they are to expensive right now.
I think I`ll go for a Standard instead even though I know Reissues are "better". Flametops are really beautiful but I havent decided yet which color it`ll be.

Why is Studios so much cheaper than the other les pauls? I dont think their colors are as beautiful as the other LP though.
Epiphones are really nice too but I`ve decided to go for a Gibson.


Offline slashpuppie

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Why do you think Epiphone LP Custom is better than Gibson Standard? Is there a big difference?
I think I`m maybe a little obsessed over the Gibson name....

I`ve been looking at the dealers at Les Paul-forum. The ones I like (reissues) costs around 2000-3000 USD and I think it`s a little to much for me right now. Are they usually that expensive or do you think there is cheaper ones? I think I have to see the harsh reality and lower my price level.....  :(
A used Standard is not that expensive. But how much do you think I should pay to get a good one?

What do you think about these guitars? I think the first one is a real beauty.... (The prices is probably going up though)

http://cgi.ebay.com/2005-Gibson-Les-Paul-Standard_W0QQitemZ290079647092QQihZ019QQcategoryZ38086QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Gibson-Les-Paul-Standard-Tobacco-Burst-AA-Flametop_W0QQitemZ290079625313QQihZ019QQcategoryZ38086QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


And what about this one, I really think it`s a beauty but is it an ordinary Standard or is it a Reissue like it says?

http://cgi.ebay.com/93-USA-GIBSON-HISTORIC-LES-PAUL-59-60-REISSUE-UNIQUE_W0QQitemZ190078632617QQihZ009QQcategoryZ38086QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem




Offline Slash1337

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Cuz they're handcrafted. Just more quality, put into the making of a custom raher than just standard USA.

Offline Darkburst

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Cuz they're handcrafted. Just more quality, put into the making of a custom raher than just standard USA.

I hate to break it to you but, they're not any more hand crafted than a USA Standard. They're still nice guitars and I've played some excellent Epiphone Elite models. The deal breaker for me is the poly finish rather than nitro lacquer. I just don't like the 'dipped in plastic' feel. Otherwise I would have scored an Epi Elite Casino for that woody hollow body sound.

Offline Slash1337

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True. But thats just the top. Its still wood. And most certainly doesnt "feel" like plastic. Im just saying for the price... 1000 compared to 3000. Pretty much teh exact same guitar just different pups but that'll ost what 500?

So you can spend 1500 on a guitar that is just equally good as the gibson or even better to some people.